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      CommentAuthorgolfgod
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2007
     
    what Gary player says " he knows some golfers are using performing-enhancing drugs."
    Player said he took an oath not to name the player. “Somebody else told me something that I also promised I wouldn’t tell that verified others had done it.”

    “He knows two?” Nick Faldo said yesterday. “I know zero. Never heard of anybody, no.”

    Phil Mickelson said he doesn’t think “there’s even a remote chance” of a player testing positive.

    But with the open close I wonder why the timing of his comments, I think hes right though, golf people and tours are kidding themsleves if they golf is 100% clean, you might be suprised that one of the highest % of drug taking occurs in shooting and archery (nerver claming drugs) I suspect a few would use those as well as HGH (hunman growth hormones) as well nanadralone which increase muscle mass which equates to power

    Phil the dill says no, hmm Americans all thought baseballers were all clean too yet the whole world could see they were not. You dont grow arms like baryBonds has natrually, they are like tree trunks.

    I have seen a few monsters out there too, and I would be targeting those guys. I agree with players, sports peole will do anything to win, sure golf is self rules but we are not talking about what happenes on the course we are talking about what happens off it which is significantly different.

    Just a side snippet to all of this I suspect no person will ever tell Gary Player a secret again.
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      CommentAuthor9iron
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2007
     
    Gary is the only one on drugs.
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      CommentAuthorgolfgod
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2007 edited
     
    Do you think its false???
    So you dont think golfers would do anything outside the course to gain an advatage, why do they spend hours testing equipment, getting lie angels right and so on…too miss the cut.

    Hvaing watched sport evolve from the 70’s when drug taking took hold of world sport to now where it owns world sort, youre kidding yourself if you think golfers wouldbt be trying it atleast, if they know theres no testing why not have a dabble

    even doctors say HGH is good for skinny athletes – many golfers are skinny – hello open yuour eyes please.
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      CommentAuthorAdmin
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2007
     

    For sure 9iron, any professional sport where there is big money involved, althetes are going to use anything to gain an edge over their opponents. Not to say that everyone uses them, however, a large percentage would. Even golfers would use them, to build muscle mass for power, for quicker recovery from injury etc…

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      CommentAuthorgolfgod
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2007 edited
     
    I think my point to all of this has been quite simple, why have the golf authorities waited so long before bringing in regular testing

    They have dropped the ball on this one I’m afraid, completely and utterly missed the boat to the point where they need to do a lot of catch up work.

    There would be many areas in golf where steroid and calming drugs would be useful…Golf depite many peoples thoughts is quite an athletic sport, the better the athlete the better you can play in many instances.
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      CommentAuthorThe Bloke
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2007
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: 9iron</cite>Gary is the only one on drugs.</blockquote>
    LMAO, haha, I think I agree :)
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      CommentAuthorTmiltz
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2007
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: golfgod</cite>I think my point to all of this has been quite simple, why have the golf authorities waited so long before bringing in regular testing

    They have dropped the ball on this one I’m afraid, completely and utterly missed the boat to the point where they need to do a lot of catch up work.
    </blockquote>

    Yeah, I'll have to agree with you on that one... It is a bit late to be bringing all of this up now, don't ya think? Really, they should of been prepared for this along time ago, this has been going on for years and now they're finally ready to take action...
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      CommentAuthorAdmin
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2007
     

    Dick Pound, the chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency, has praised Gary Player for breaking the silence over drug-taking in professional golf but fears progress towards a worldwide drug-testing program in the sport is being stalled by America's PGA Tour. Player, 71, was the talk of Carnoustie last week when he revealed that 10 players around the world - "and maybe a hell of lot more" - were taking drugs such as human growth hormone and steroids to cope with the physical demands of the modern game.

    • CommentAuthorsacback1
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2007
     
    I wonder how many other golfers are going to snub Player now. Also, did the Anti-doping agency have something on Player that made him open up like this?
    • CommentAuthorRicardo
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2007
     
    If you compare golfers to baseball players, do you think that there's more of an advantage to doped players in baseball?

    I assume that extra strength is likely to be desirable every time they get in the batter's box, but I wonder if a doped golfer's advantage is mainly when driving, as opposed to the various other shots?
    • CommentAuthorsacback1
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2007
     
    I don't know, I think when you look at it, it's the same but their objective is different, isn't it? Baseball is a team thing as well golfing only takes one person.
    • CommentAuthorsacback1
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2007
     
    I don't understand the aspects of how baseball and golf are the same. I mean you both have to swing at the ball of course but I think that it doesn't share ant traits.
    • CommentAuthorwillyable
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2007
     
    I think that it is possible that there is drug use in just about any sport. Why should golf be any different.
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    I agree. Baseball is not the only sport out there with idiots who think they have to put an illegal substance into their bodies to be good at their sport.
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    I think that drugs are becoming prevalent in every sport any more.
    • CommentAuthorsacback1
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2007
     
    It can't be avoided. They try to hide it yeah but we all know that most of them use some type of drug. I don't care if it's a muscle enhancement. Its a drug. Now the question is, why do they take them? Especially in Golf, what is the purpose in your taking drugs?
    • CommentAuthorgilipsie
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2007
     
    Not everyone in sports uses drugs, thats considered to be a stereotype. You can't say that. But You can say that a lot of them are falling into the trend of drug use.
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    I agree gilipsie. I don't buy the stereotype.
    • CommentAuthorwillyable
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2007
     
    I think it is a stereotype, and sports figures seem to be thought of as all druggies.
    • CommentAuthorsacback1
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2007
     
    I think that Player may be guilty of the old "methinks he doth protest too much" What is he trying to hide by his statements?
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    I think there should be mandatory testing in all pro sports.
    • CommentAuthorgilipsie
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2007
     
    It may be stereotype to say all sports players use drugs, but it seem more and more like they are turning to drugs. It seems to be the norm anymore.
    • CommentAuthorMHJ
    • CommentTimeAug 15th 2007
     
    Drugs are popular in all sports because they are easily accesible. I would assume the muscle mass steroids provide could provide an edge in the golf game
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      CommentAuthorhappy
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2007
     
    See I just do not see the point with drugs and sports. What ever happen to sports being about the game, test your own capibility, preforming to your best. I just do not see how you can be happy with yourself if you have to get a head by taking drugs. Especially in a game of golf.
    • CommentAuthorjimmyc1216
    • CommentTimeAug 21st 2007
     
    As with anything, never say never. Although I think golf is probably the 2nd cleanest sport with ping pong being the first. With that being said, what is the benefit of a golfer taking HGH's? They might give you the power to make that 4 foot putt that you otherwise would leave short. I suppose they could help you drive farther or help you get out of the deep rough easier. That's it, no other benefit. Furthemore the with technological advances in clubs and balls who needs them. I think the issue is ridiculous and if a person is going to make accusations, he better be willing to back up thos accusations. As I like to say, "put up or shut up".
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      CommentAuthorTmiltz
    • CommentTimeAug 21st 2007
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: jimmyc1216</cite>As with anything, never say never. Although I think golf is probably the 2nd cleanest sport with ping pong being the first. With that being said, what is the benefit of a golfer taking HGH's? They might give you the power to make that 4 foot putt that you otherwise would leave short. I suppose they could help you drive farther or help you get out of the deep rough easier. That's it, no other benefit. Furthemore the with technological advances in clubs and balls who needs them. I think the issue is ridiculous and if a person is going to make accusations, he better be willing to back up thos accusations. As I like to say, "put up or shut up".</blockquote>

    Well your right, and taking the risk of getting caught, for an extra 2 feet on your golf drive is just Ridiculous !